Marriage

I would like to know if their is any gathering where parents can meet other parents with interest of marriage for their children? I feel that as mosque should be a center part of any muslims life, our mosque and senior management in the mosque should bring community together on a regular basis so parents can meet like minded families with view of marriage for their children.

There isn't any marriage event. There used to be one organised by some local sisters. If you wish to be put in touch with them, send us a message using the Contact Page.

Hope everyone's well

I recently watched the channel 4 programme about Birmingham Central Mosques Marriage Bureau and I think its a great idea! We should really have something llike this to make it easier for the next generation!

Here's a link to the website - http://www.channel4.com/programmes/revelations

A.A.

I hope everyone is making the most of the blessed Holy month of Ramadhan, Insha'Allah.

I am very concerned on the state of our society and the role our mosques are playing in helping single muslim of marriageables ages to find their suitable life partner to complete half of their deen.

I have seen random moments on this webiste dating back months and years and it seems their is not a single action taken regarding the issues some brothers and sisters have been brave enough to highlight to our elderies and repectable mosque committee members.

Its an humble request to be active NOW as Allah doesn't change the state of a community unless they are willingly to do it for themselves.

I would like to see a reply to this comment by a member of mosque, Jazak'Allah.

.........the idea is very good but the admin of the mosque dosen't show any intrest in this most popular issue on this website.So please take a step to organized such kind of evantsin the mosque. There should be advertsed such kind of events properly. The best and possible thing is to do to meet the parennts with each other after the Friday pray time. when the mostly peoples can come. So start to meet with each other after the friday pray in the main hall of the mosque.

I can understand our mosque admin are very busy with taking care of other matter BUT the least a mosque can arrange to ANNOUNCE and leave a NOTE BOOK upstairs in ladies and the one for the gents in the main mosque for people or families to register interest of such service so when eventaully it does come in to practice there will be a way to contact those who are willing to take part.
I was quite surprised when I hear a programme on Radia Ramadhan today at 11am while driving where the person was telling about Hazrat Ayesha (r.a) arranging a gathering in her own presence and introducting male and female of her family within Islamic boundries to see each other for marriage purpose!
Why is our elderly in our society or mosque heads are scared to take similar steps?
OR
the married people are too busy with their own marriage to help those who are looking to get married?
Com'on some thing some where is not right, PLEASE someone look in to it with sincere heart and intentions, it will work if commitment and time is given to this, needless to say, perhaps a bit of Haqook-ul-Ib'ad will be fulfilled with REWARDS in your account, Insha'Allah!!

salaam. i absolutely agree with the above comments and am deepply saddened and disappointed to observe that the Mosque administration cannot or will not recognise that a marriage/matrimonial service of some kind needs to facilitated urgently within the Glasgow Muslim Community- special attention should be given to the fact that there are many single Muslims in Glasgow who are seeking marriage. Failure to address this particularly important issue has in effect resulted in many muslims remaining unmarried. We must seriously address the core problems within our Muslim society/community; the only way this can be positively resolved will be through proactive initiatives undertaken by the Mosque representatives and from ongoing feedback and liasing with the community itself. It is imperative for our social and spiritual harmony that we do so and for the future of our muslim brothers and sisters here in Glasgow.

salam,
marriage arrangement is perhaps one of the most important (if not the most important) communal obligation (fard al kifayah) at the moment. so we are all responsible for setting up the means for it, if the mosques/imams are not doing it then it is up to us.

The other key communal obligation is to set up the means for us to get our necessary islamic education. Alhamdulillah there are many places in glasgow you can do this. For brothers it is quite easy, for sisters there is a dedicated women's place : al meezan (they have a professional website too). There is the new SOLAS foundation, for people seeking islamic education in english run by two local shaykhs (google it, they have a site).

All in all, we cannot wait for a few imams/mosques to do all these things, they are overwhelmed as it is with their job (you should check out their timetables), so if one cannot expect them realistically to handle all this then who has to do it? If you say 'oh the elders in the community or some other islamic minded people' - well that means YOU, and ME, and all of the people writing here etc. Lets do something about it.

If you want to organise such things (marriage, education etc) you might find the "glasgow muslims" website a more convenient place to have discussions. Lets just get on with it, the elders are old, the imams are doing the best they can and have too much on their plate (not to mention all sorts of 'political expectations' from the 'committees') but it is us youngsters sitting here on our armchairs just complaining (me included)! This is not the way things work! We have to take our future into our own hands, insha Allah.

Salaam and Eid Mubarak Glasgow!

I must say I am overwhemled with the comments above and I am glad that I did voice my opinion on the 9th & 15th Sep.

I and a friend of mine have spoken to one of the Imams and also a member of the mosque committee, they were willing but however they were a little reluctant to take things on board. When we gave reference of Birmingham central mosque, we were told to connect them for advice though we thought it should have been the imam himself liasion with the Birmingham mosque themselves. Kher, I have emailed them but had no reply so far.

I agree that you and I can arrange an event But I do believe that mosque should play the crucial part in our struggle and Insha'Allah we will be guided by our Imams to keep it within Islamic boundries.

Plus I was also going to suggest once a month we should have talk on different issues regarding marriage with an opportunity to have question answer session. Which will not only benefit us single people but also married couple, Insha'Allah.

Let's continue with this fellow Glaswegians and let's make a difference in our community, Insha'Allah for the better.

W'Salaam
M.

Assalamo Aleykum

I have been keeping an eye on the marriage forums on both the central masjid website and glasgow muslims website.

I was one of the facilitators at the two marriage events that Al-Khair had organised. I could contribute to the ideas and experiences learnt, pros and cons, etc..

Would anyone like to get in touch with me and discuss how we can take this forward?

My e-mail address is zara_2k@hotmail.com

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Salaam sister Ghazala,

Are you aware if AlKhair is organising any future events?

Al-Khair will not be organising any more events.

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salaam to everyone,

I am very happy to read the numerous comments about improving the situation of the muslims in glasgow however having been involved with a few organisations and from my own experience i think its safe to say that if you want to organise an event - lets take a marriage event as is being proposed - then it needs to be done by a group of committed individuals

no mosque especially central mosque from my experience will be able to organise such an event - the summer / winter conferences are about as much as CM is able or willing to do

dont get me wrong there have been various events at the mosque but they are usually organised and driven by an individual or group as opposed to the mosque itself - the finance seminar for example which is coming up

like it or not - this is the reality and in my opinion this is the reason numerous organisations now exist which specialise in youth work, sisters education etc

i would strongly suggest you approach an active organisation to try and facilitate a marriage event - the mosques in glasgow will not be able to help you find a husband / wife and to try and change the policies and people who run the masjid will take a long long time and maybe just maybe your own children in generations to come will be able to turn to the masjids and especially central mosque to help with finding a spouse inshallah

Good comment.

Thats why I have put myself forward in trying to organise something to assist people in trying to find a marriage partner.

I am willing to put the time and effort into a service that is required.

It would be helpful if I had some assistance.

Please get in touch with me at zara_2k@hotmail.com

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Salaam

I will drop you an email and perhaps meet up to discuss where should we go from here...!
Anyone else who is willing to contribute should also get in touch so together we can make it successful, Insha'Allah.

Allah Hafiz
M.

For all those who wish to contribute to finding ourselves/others a marriage partner..organising an event...

Please attend a meeting on .....

Sunday 25th October

12.30pm

The Tramway, Albert Drive, Pollokshields

Seating area upstairs

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salam,
can you post up a summary of minutes or such on this forum after your meeting?

thanks
s

Insha Allah I will.

You are more than welcome to attend.

So far there are only three of us meeting.

salam, im out the country at the moment and not around until around mid october

Salaam
I would like to attend the meeting also, Perhaps would be good to get some feedback from people who may have attended other events, for successes and failures.

Please come along to The Tramway, Albert Drive, Pollokshields on Sunday 25th October at 12.30pm. We will be meeting at the upper seating area.
There will be five of us meeting so far. I helped out at both the marriage events that Al-Khair had organised. The first event was with match4Muslims.com.
The more people there are, the more ideas and contribution to organising something that will Insha Allah help people find a marriage partner.

salam all,
how did this meeting go?

i was thinking that we could start a very simple marriage bureau in the following way:
-get our friends and our friends friends to make a list of their friends
-get them all to fill up some forms (with questionnaires) - something a bit more detailed than what 'caste' or ethnic group they belong to (!)

-do some very simple matching, then pass the forms around (by email ideally)
-if people are interested in profiles then just link them up - either through their walis or directly depending on case. Or arrange another member to supervise meetings between potential couples

-arrange very small get togethers where people come and discuss issues, no need to book a restaurant, can just do it in a coffee shop, or in mosque, or someone's house or wherever.

(don't worry about the 'halal/mixing aspect' - that is obviously of primary concern, inshallah we can sort it out/maintain that aspect)

salam,
i made a google group for this discussion:

its called: halfofdeenglasgow@googlegroups.com
if you go to gmail.com and get a gmail address then send a mail (with anything in it) to the following address to subscribe:

halfofdeenglasgow+subscribe@googlegroups.com

it will be a restricted group, so only open to people who are attached to this forum i guess.

The main advantage of it is that we can keep in regular contact (by mail if needs be) instead of keeping anonymous (well you can still keep anonymous if you wish as no one will necessarily know you through your email address alone).

..please join quick, lots of stuff to discuss.
s

I would find it helpful if the two people that have left the two above comments (17 October 7.19pm and 7.32pm) would attend the meeting next week.

salam, i will try to make it inshallah

Please count me in. I will definitely attend, so the total number increased to 6. I want to contribute to our community.

Great work ...

Salman

Me and my sister would also like to attend this meeting inshallah

Salaam all,

Sorry I couldn't be there after been looking forward to it for weeks to finally see Glasgow moving!

Glad to hear from sister Ghazala that it went ahead and 7 people attended.

I will look forward to seeing the minutes here soon.

Best wishes

salam, alhamdulillah that it went ahead. i was unable to make it.

it would be good if people signed up to the email group above

Hi S.

Ok, so all I have to do is to join that group on google? Sorry i am not familiar with it hence asking what to do really? Is this means of knowing who would like to be kept informed of future gatherings?

Thanks

AOA

7 People attended the meeting but we like to know about the over come of this meeting. When and where the next meeting will be ?

One of the brothers that attended the meeting was going to put up a note regarding the outcome of the meeting.

7 people attended - 3 brothers and 4 sisters. Meeting lasted an hour and a half. Everybody contributed to the discussion and we had ideas to which we discussed the pros and cons. The action points :-

It was decided that one of the brothers would speak to an Imam from Central and update him about the meeting that took place;
Ask for permission to use the Central website for marriage services;
Request that the other masjids/Imams are informed about the initiative when they all meet;
A page will be created so that people can leave their details

These are initial ideas from a first meeting and do still require to be ironed out. We intend to meet again and get an update from the brother and the above action points. Please be patient and don't get too excited yet!! The next meeting should be in about three weeks. Date to be fixed. The date, time, venue of the next meeting will be posted here so that if people wish to attend then they can.

I am compiling relevant questions that may be asked from a prospective partner.

What would you want to know from someone that you are considering for marriage?

Leave answers below.

Thank you.

Name, Father's name,Male/Female,Colour, Height, Smooker/nonsmooker, Obviously the persone should be Muslim.Education lavel, Knowledge of Islam, Cast, Address, Employment status,Status in the UK, Unmarried/Married/Divorced,If Married/ Is this your first marriage Yes Or No If no than How many you have been, In Case of divorce/ How many divorce or divorses you have been made in your privious life, In case of 2nd marriage /What is the purpose of the marriage. Children Yes Or No/ if yes How many, your intrests. your likes and dislikes. Latest Picture. Job Phone no. Home Phone no. Mobile phone no/should be registered on your name. Do you have any Contact refranceses from the Pakistani community if yes their name,address, Home and mobile phone no. Preferences, Email address. Criminal record.

If you cannot provide some information so in the remarks section you need to provide the full details, Why you are not able to provide the missing information. Note for the verification of the above details someone need to provide the docoumentry Proof.

In the Last the statement Should be signed from the Person that i beleave Allah as a true muslim. I am not Kadayani and any nonmuslim belives. My all the particulars are correct and complete in the best of my Knowledge. And i am Bound that i will be provide you all the changes in my Circumstances. And i am using this service for the better meaning. I understand that this Platform is just for the Fesabelillah not for the Business and for the politics.

Signature , Date if some one can Wittness than Good

Assakamu-Alikum Sister.

The Prophet p.b.u.h. blessed teachings tell us that a person when getting married is after four things, 1) Wealth 2) Family 3) Beauty 4) Deen

Some may marry on the basis of wealth, the man or woman is from a rich family and we will be happy. This man or woman is ruined.

Some may marry on the basis of Family, the man or woman belongs to a high ranking clan and we will be a proud couple. This man or woman is ruined.

Some marry on the basis of beauty. The man or woman is handsome and we will love each other. This man or woman is destroyed.

Some marry on the basis of Deen. The man or woman is pious, honest, practising Muslim. This couple will be successful. The children will be fortunate.

The beat wasiyyah (will) to children is to teach them before leaving this world, that Allah swt. is one and our creator, return to Allah and his Rasool Muhammad p.b.u.h.

Ask friends and colleagues about the man or woman.

Is the man or woman honest, reliable. How is he/she with their parents and friends. Do they have bad or good qualities, habits that they hide.

Marriage Project

The second meeting for the marriage project will take place on Sunday 13 December 2009 at 12.30pm at The Tramway, Albert Drive, Pollokshields. Upper seating area.

Ghazala

salaam

I hope everyone is well... It would be good to pass the word regarding the marriage project... Can you also add me to the list

MARRIAGE PROJECT MEETING POSTPONED The marriage project meeting will now take place on Saturday 19th December at the same venue - The Tramway, Albert Drive, Pollokshields, upper seating area and at the same time - 12.30pm. Ghazala

If the Mosque really cared about this issue, they would have been proactive....but what else can i say...our society is also to blame....allah hafiz....

Assalamo Aleykum

MARRIAGE PROJECT MEETING CANCELLED

Apologies to those who were going to attend the marriage project meeting tomorrow afternoon.

Unfortunately we have had to cancel this meeting.

We are waiting to hear back from the Imams.

Once we have heard back from them then we shall arrange another meeting.

Jazak Allah

Fi Aman Allah

"Caste"

WOW!

I thought they had to be Musim for this event...

Why would this classification system from South Asia be appropriate information?

Can't we just tell those who care about "Caste" to deal with the fact that it is from another region and should have no bearing on marriage choices - especially in a casteless country?

I have seen that the Muslims like other religions can just worship like their fathers before them did but I believe we should rid organisations that try to be religious from cultural remnants - even if old uncles etc. find it hard.

Please do answer the questions if possible - God knows best so there may be a reason why the Caste system inluences Pakistani Marriages.

Jazakumallahukhieran,

A worried Scottish Brother.

Asalam o alaikum sisters and brothers.

What a great site that you can advice and help each other and give your opinion.

I was just looking at one of the replies and noticed that an anonymous person replied on the 11th of November at 2.31pm

This is in response to their comment.

It is quite astonishing that they mentioned several points, quite amazingly asking if this person is of an ‘educated level’, don’t know what they mean by status in the UK has this person to be a member of Parliament, GP, lawyer etc?

As sister said this is a casteless country. I think most people who will be wishing to take interest in this would be Muslims anyway so what has caste to do with it?

Do you think anyone with a criminal record is going to state that he has committed an offence. They could quite easily they have committed a serious offence and get their friends to sign that this person is of good character when they are not.

We have to be very careful when asking for too much information in the early stages. This matter is a very delicate nature so asking for too much is at the early stages is not appropriate- can lead to Identity theft!

Sister

Aslam alakum

I am looking for female muslims, for my sons for marriage,there are other parents with daughters who are looking for a suitable son in law,the situation in Scotland as it stands is getting serious, there are thousands of young muslim men and women who have no way of getting married, and pressure is mounting on the parents from the children,so please wake up community leaders and establish some kind of marriage bureau at the Mosque before it gets worse.

Al-Furqan Mosque have set up a marriage bureau.

i female friend of mine what to revert to islam.Sould i just take her to central mosque and they can revert her or what i should advice here?Do you need two witnesses to do that is that right?

asalamalikum brother

Please can u tell me which surah i have to read in second rakht of witar namaz and post the surah as well that will be great.

Jazak Allah

Regarding the conversion witness. One witness will be enough, which is going to be the Imam. For the Shahadah, there is no special number of witnesses for it - it's not like the Nikah that needs two witnesses.

You can let me know your friend's name and also the date and time of your visit through the Contact Page so that I can let the Imam(s) know.

For witr, it's sunnah to read Surah Al-Ala (surah number 87 in the 30th Juz of the Quran). In the second rakah, read surah Al-Kafiroon (surah number 109 in the 30th Juz). In the third rakah, read surah Al-Ikhlaas (surah number 112 in the 30th Juz). To read them online, please visit www.quranflash.com.

sallam to all dear muslims,

my name is Sami Ullah, and i am coming from germany to Glasgow for my last semester, i have to write my thesis here, i am pakistani born boy from lahore, and i have a problem, and i would like to discuss with you that still i didnt get the accomodation and i would be there on 1 feb for 5 months i will stay there. so please help me in finding the student accomodation for single room. i would appriciate your approach of helping others, and we know that this is Sunnah of Our Beloved Prophet (SAW) to help others.so i would like to know about this, my email adress i am writing here , raosami_pulc@hotmail.com

thanks to All sweet Muslims

I am looking forward for your emails.

Allah Hafiz

I got in touch with Masjid Al-Furqan to find out about their marriage service. The following was their reply.....

Assallam Walikum,We are charging a nominal fee of £30 to cover our costs.Anyone interested in this match making can request application form. We will send the application form and terms and conditions by email. We are getting completed forms from brothers and sisters. Our committee will then look at the desired partner section and will try to find the best suitable match. We will then contact both parties separately and will discuss the profile without passing on the personal information to each other. If both parties are happy to take this forward, we will then arrange a 1 - 1 meeting in our premises. After the meeting, we will request feedback. If things are positive from both sides, they can take it further. At this point personal information will be exchanged and our job is done. We are off course here to support but the primary responsibility rests with both the parties. Hope this helps.ACS

Alfurqan Community Services (alfurqancs@googlemail.com)

salam,

what happened to the marriage email group?

it suddenly got taken offline, does anyone know what happened?

It's defunct. This has progressed from being an external working group to an official project.

salam, you mean the furqan masjid project?

thanks

No, it doesn't refer to that project, although it's good to see that they're tackling this issue. Further details will be provided when appropriate.

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